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    billlaurelMD, Cassiodorus, In her own Voice

    Perhaps you don't feel the same, but I am glad that I encouraged you to read Capitalism 3.0.  You brought a depth and perspective to this discussion that I would not have.

    My short read/reaction has been:

    * A lot of attractive ideas / thinking.

    * Sometimes overly simplistic

    * A version of utopian, as if his path can actually be followed

    * Lacking attention to the urgency of the situation, as seen with the IPCC reporting from yesterday

    Thank you, again, for a truly insightful discussion. One that I will return to again when I have time to reflect on it further.

    Striving to Get Energy Smart NOW!!! to Energize America.

    by A Siegel on Sun Nov 18, 2007 at 08:10:29 AM PDT

    •  I need something to say -- (2+ / 0-)

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      A Siegel, In her own Voice

      to the eco-capitalists, the folks who insist upon turning plans into businesses.  In my current geographical/ temporal location, the eco-capitalists are the best I can find, and practically nobody is an ecosocialist.  Yet I still feel that ecosocialism will be necessary at some point in the future.  Barnes is an eco-capitalist; indeed, he is one of the most ethical of the bunch.  I like his idea of the "commons entrepreneur"; it's adaptable to socialism.

      Of course, people are trapped in capitalism, at the mercy of landlords and loan agencies and bosses.  They really ought to get together to learn to resist; but their mentalities are consumerist.  A weekend at Disneyland (or whatever) is their compensation for the lives they lead.

      Everything in Barnes' book is good, except the idea that the end of all of it should be more capitalism.

      "The freeway's concrete way won't show/ you where to run or how to go" -- Jorma Kaukonen

      by Cassiodorus on Sun Nov 18, 2007 at 08:52:27 AM PDT

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