Iron Fist: Fuck the Shia. They blew up the Twin Towers to provoke an American response.
We dropped the ball.
vxbush: TOO MANY RESTRICTIONS! You got that right
freedomplow: Matthews and Olbermann are doing analysis for MSNBC.
The two biggest antiwar defeatists on all of television.
What a channel!
facp: It frustrates me when I hear the left whine about the 3000 service men and women lost in this war. Over about 3-4 years time. In America 5000 people die each year from food poisining. 80% from resturants. Lets have some prospective here. We are winning this war .
So?: YADDA YADDA YADDA FROM BUSH
Many listening tonight will ask why this effort will succeed when previous operations to secure Baghdad did not. Here are the differences: In earlier operations, Iraqi and American forces cleared many neighborhoods of terrorists and insurgents – but when our forces moved on to other targets, the killers returned. This time, we will have the force levels we need to hold the areas that have been cleared. In earlier operations, political and sectarian interference prevented Iraqi and American forces from going into neighborhoods that are home to those fueling the sectarian violence. This time, Iraqi and American forces will have a green light to enter these neighborhoods – and Prime Minister Maliki has pledged that political or sectarian interference will not be tolerated.
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Well Mr. President, why didn't you do this 3 years ago? 4 years ago?
This time it will be doifferent.... yadadadadadada
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Why did you go into Iraq undermanned? yadadadadada
Austin Conservative: It would be nice if George's legacy would not be the President that gave Texas back to Mexico.
Unchecked illegal immigration and "Anchor Babies" will give Mexicans a majority in Texas in two or three generations. Once that happens, they will secede from the Union as is fully legal and constitutional for the Great State of Texas.
What a shame. George's ranch will be in Mexico and his great grandchildren will be forced to speak Spanish.
I voted for him twice, I've contributed to him, but I am extremely disappointed at his turning a blind eye to invasion from the south.
(Not sure what this has to do with the speech on Iraq.)
E.T.:We don’t need more troops in Iraq. Bush just needs to get nasty with Syria and Iran .... Tell Iran and Syria in no uncertain terms that any interference in Iraq will result in a military response directly in their country....
lawhawk : The real key isn't the number of troops, but the ROE. Change the ROE to let our forces go after the jihadis and insurgents without worrying about the legalities or supposed sensitivities if we have to go into mosques or other areas, and the jihadis and insurgents will have no where left to hide.
so.cal.swede: the only thing that irks me is the fact that more people are killed daily by illegal immigrants in this country (25 a day accd. to FBI stats) than are soldiers are killed in Iraq.
this means:
a) Bush is not paying enough attention to the illegal immigrant problem in the US
b) Moonbats/Leftists/Dems are vastly overblowing the "horror" of the Iraq war.
facp: Tomorrows headlines don't really matter. No visionary leader is ever appreaceted in his life time. What matters is 20 -30 years from now.
I think I'll take my grand children to the Bagdad SANDLES RESORT.
E.T.: Going after Iran and Syria... THIS IS GREAT NEWS.... THIS IS THE WAY TO WIN ....
msdixie:"Extremists" What kind of extremists? Give them a name. What's their politics? It's in the book as ole Brother Dave used to say, "it's in the book." Look at their book. It's full of violence and the glorification of violence, it's full of rape and maimings and murders. And deception, for allah is the best of all deceivers they say.
an Bundy: #56 CrimsonFisted
Is he declaring war on Iran?
We're going to have to sooner or later, Iran is the root of 90%+ of all the regional problems.
/unless we follow through with Iran, the whole exercise up to this point was a waste of time and treasure, Iran has been the endgame all along
Dr. Manhattan: Lizards looking for the president to denounce islam are going to be dissatisfied for the rest of their lives.
And plues, it would only confirm the muslim world's worst libels against us.
Sometimes it is best not to shake the hornets nest, lizards.
Liz Ard: The whole problem i have with this "new strategy" is that it sounds like GWB is begging for another chance.
It is the tone of the address that will be the downfall of this valiant effort.
IMO, too little. Too late.
Historic mistake was made (too little force, too much restriction, too much sensitivity). Now we will watch 4 years of effort turn into a complete waste. I am afraid.
msdixie: George, try this.
WE came,we saw,we conquered, not we came and got rid of one of the worst tyrants of the cesspool of the mideast, and then helped them build back their infrastructure. We give you two years to get your sh*t together, cause we're declaring victory and then we leave and the sunni and shia can go on with another 10 year war while we recoup and learn who our enemy is and how they work (like robots).
Liz Ard: Durbin= voice of defeatism.
RTLM : Talking points from Kos
mama winger: Durbin the Turban is giving the response. I thought it was to be Ellison. Instead we get the Naziboy from Illinois.
Cartman: Dude is my President. I stand behind him, despite any real or percieved faults. Guess that makes me a right-winged fanatic. Frankly, I don't give a damn, America haters. A pox on all of you.
msdixie: Yeah, where's abd ellison? Still carrying water for the arabs and the brotherhood. Is he on cable? I got rid of cable and miss it sometimes.
tarkus : Whats so fucked up about this situation is that it is the left in this country, people like Durbin, who handcuffed our armed-forces from doing what they should have done years ago- putting down al-Sadr and flattening the insurgents in Fallujah, and then they blame the administration for failure. It is the same with Israel's recent war with Hezbullah- criticizing israel for 'disproportionate force'- thereby handcuffing the IDF, then later criticizing them for failure.
Iron Fist: #141 Right Side,
Osama is Muslim . The Muslims brought down the Twin Towers.
Have you forgotten?
No one has been more provoked that the people of the United States.
The Shia can just suck it up.
Athos: Would've liked to hear the Durban Q & A
Does watching fellatio excite you that much? That's all it would be - the press exercising fellatio on Durbin.
Kiernan: #12 iron fist
Fuck the Shia. They blew up the Twin Towers to provoke an American response.
We dropped the ball.
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#47 yocahan
iron fist al quada is sunni not shia there both m'f'ers but unlike the donk head of intell in congress we must know what we are talking about.
Look, Bush may go down as one of the worst Presidents in history. If we want to win, we should go in with overwhelming force. Lincoln had to change his generals, and now (maybe too late) Bush is too. It's very much in vogue here to say that we should bomb or nuke everybody, but If we are trying to win this war, and by win it means have some kind of a viable nation state in Iraq, it is obvious that we have to have a little bit of understanding as to who actually lives there.
I wish that we would decide whether we want to lose, or want to win. If we are not going to win, then we should get out now. If we want to win, we should send all the troops we can. We should also let the chinless optometrist and the Persian Dinner jacket know they they are next on the list.
Oh, yeah, and kill Muqtada al-Sadr yesterday.
And while we are at let's not forget about the Taliban in Pakistan and Afghanistan.
Damn, we have a full plate.
rw in san diego: I agree with what McCain is saying, however. Why Sadr City isn't a smoking ruin is a mystery to me.
facp : I once knew a Jr. basketball coach that coached to win. When approached by the league Chairmain that he wasn't playing all of his bench and the second string kids were'nt playing enough BLA BLA BLA.
The coach was told "we don't play to win in this league we just want to build self esteem".
The coach responded "Then why do we have a score board !
I propose that P J media develope a true score board updated daily
Terrorists Killed US Forces Killled
100,000 3000
Looks like we are winning!
The Pulchritudinous Patriot: I am now totally convinced that the libs want America to lose...
I had held out a hopeless hope that perhaps I was mistaken. I couldn't imagine how anyone born and raised in this country could want it to fall.
I am a naieve little fool.
I despise Dick Durban, Whore of the Caliphate. I despise the lot of them, hippie, commie bastards.
No one complained during the darkest days of WWII!
But the fucking hippies, those pot smoking, acid dropping, filthy, unbathed and unshaven bastards have gotten more influence in this world than they should be allowed.
Four years is too MUCH! TO Long! Christ on a pony, this country is 231 years old and we haven't achieved utopia!
It took Russia over a decade from the fall of the wall to even come close to some semblance of a democracy (granted, there are problems there)...
For fuck sake, we only deposed Saddam three years ago! What do these hippie bastards expect?
I'm sorry...I know that I am ranting, and I know that things haven't gone perfect in Iraq and I know that I am preaching to the choir...
but it makes me sick to see these supposed journalists salivating over the possibility of the liberals cutting off funds to the effort..it;s almost as if they want another Saigon.
It makes me ill. It makes me scream.
I am so upset.
I hate hippie, commie liberal pigs.
mrdriven: little dick durbin...what a loser--
someday he'll get what's coming to him--
someone/somewhere will show him what pol pot, nazis and soviet gulags are really like...
his face needs to be smashed through a windshield--
ok i am going to calm down now...
Muck DeFuslims: Jorge Wahhabi Bush---clueless as ever. 'The vast majority of Muslims want to live in peace'...'The Palestinian territories'...yada yada blah blah blah.
He's either naive or a liar. Either way for all intents and purposes, he's clueless.
Liberty and Democracy will reform Islam.
What a crock.
Muslim nation building is doomed to failure.
gamegrid:All I could think about was how a left-wing liberal so-called "progressive" would view this speech.
Bush appears on Camera (BLOOD RISES)
Bush starts speaking (ANGER BEYOND BELIEF)
(BLACKED OUT)
Bush off Camera
Now...ask that "progressive" a question:
G-D BUSH AND HIS WAR FOR OIL! "ESCALATION" ARGH ARGH ARGH!
I believe these so called intelligent (self-professed of course) liberals are hardly intelligent at all. They don't even know what intelligent debate is...only people who are stupid enough to believe in their bleeding heart unrealistic beliefs of the world are OK in their book. Anyone else who disagrees is an "idiot". That's real debate, eh?
Durbin is a jerkoff. Illinois sucks.
The shocker of the dem party to me is that idiot Reid. How can Nevada elect that idiot? Have enough Californians really moved there to upset the balance? I really hope the republicans can field a nice (hispanic republican recommended) candidate to take him down next election.
ardent_pen: Good evening, all:
Great speech! I thought the best parts were when he politely told Iran and Syria that we are coming for them, and further, that if "others" had a better plan, he would be willing to listen.
I have no doubt that the whiny, spaghetti-spined, dance-around-the-maypole-holding hands and singing "Kumbayah" cut-and-run crowd will be bursting their collective Daily Kos gaskets after this.
Maybe the Kos Kids could resurrect the "human shield" thing and protect the American and Iraqi troops as this plan is executed?
gamegrid: I hope Bush does something before long because if some sucker like Obama or Hillary gets into office, the problem will only fester ala Bill Clinton style...for the next Republican to take the rap for it again.
The United States has ignored the "muslim problem" since post-WW II time.
If I was president, I would #1: Pull aid from Egypt, #2: Pull aid from Pakistan #3: Bomb targets in any god damn country that gets in the way. If that country disapproves, bomb their leaders to hell. Anarchy is better than an Theocracy anyday of the week.
When would we have to worry about Somalia getting to us here in the USA? Iran is the opposite. Time to take action.
I really hope Bush is serious about doing something to address this...and I mean doing somthing by meaning "air strikes" on Iranian/Syrian land.
eon: I'd like to email Senator Durbin. But I can't.
My mother always taught me to be polite, no matter what. I see no way I could do so with him.
Instead, I'd come up with something like this.
So, are you actually going to give us even a chance of winning this one, to make up for the way you stuck it to us in Vietnam?
Or are you going to do it again, in the hopes of driving another nail in the lid of the coffin you're making for Western civilization?
News flash, Senator Baby. No matter what you think, the enemy in this war are not, repeat not just a bunch of true-believing fellow Trotskyites with poor hygiene and lousy fashion sense. They are dedicated, fanatical believers in a death cult which has terrorized their own people for the last 1400 years. And they've decided that the world isn't big enough for us and them- so we have to go.
And no matter how hard you try to suck up to them, in the end, they'll 'dobe-wall you right alongside the rest of us. No, you won't be a Gauleiter in their "New World of Sharia"- you'll be buried in a mass grave somewhere just like the rest of us. Because that's their idea of "a shining city on a hill", you idiot.
So before you use that "do it for the children" line one more time- consider the chances those children will have in a world run by this bunch.
Think about it real hard, Senator.
Sorry about that, fellow Lizards.
But thanks for letting me get it off my chest.
PS- mama winger, Van Helsing; God bless you both.
cheers
eon
brandonf: #236 gamegrid
Don't count on Bush doing anything about the Muslim problem. Make no mistake, this man is a one-world multiculturalist. He loves the Koran and permits the mass influx of Muslims to America. Our days are numbered people. Educate and arm your children!
Muck DeFuslims: My plan is to let the Muslims kill each other. I really don't give a shit about a 'democracy' in Iraq. I don't give a shit about the 'Iraqi people'. I'm not interested in some utopian dream of democratizing the Muslim world and making them our friends.
My plan is a crash energy program to make Muslim oil worthless. My plan is a total embargo on all food, technology and trade with Muslim nations. My plan is overwhelming retaliation for any act taken against U.S. interests or citizens anywhere in the world by Moahmmedans.
My plan isn't some pie in the sky, idealist utopian undertaking of reforming Islam and Muslims through democracy.
My plan isn't a ridiculously futile effort to build Muslim nations that will eventually through democracy and the good will of the Islamic world embrace America.
My plan isn't to have the members of the U.S. military act as policemen instead of soldiers.
My plan doesn't include chanting the mantra 'Islam is a religion of peace' or believing that Muslims want the same things we do or share our values.
Jorge Wahhabi Bush is clueless.